i believe that if you are on this message board, you either sorta like HOA or you absolutely LOVE HOA. i, personally, love the show, specifically 1 aspect: fabina. i never have liked joy just because of how badly she tries to get rid of nina. i actually started crying during house of hoods/house of deciept, when she, well, you know what she did. you can argue that, "Well, nina kinda replaced joy", but in all retrospect she honestly had no idea what so ever about joy. So thats why i urge you jabian shippers to reconsider choosing Fabina.
Ryrykess is right, Joy was better in season 3. But I think she was really mean in season 2. I mean, she wrote a really mean article about her, tricked Fabian into kissing her whilst Nina was watching, and ALWAYS found ways to hang out with Fabian while the two of them were still dating! I'm a total Fabina shipper, so don't worry about me being a Jabian shipper lol. Fabina forever peeps!( I would like to note, however, that I am a Jeroy shipper.)